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Italo disco is first and foremost

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a curious phenomenon

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Some find it horrible,

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others are passionate fans.

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Many of the artists were alone

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a project,

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some couldn't sing.
They were a voice on the record

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and a face on the cover.

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If it had never been there
that music,

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the European sound of the 80s
there would never have been.

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The eighties were
told very, very badly.

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They were told in a way 
very superficial.

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Italo disco is a virus, yes,
a magical virus.

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Italo disco was the only one 
new musical form ever

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produced in Italy.

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It was an attitude
towards life, a joke,

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a sound effect, the desire
of a different world

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where life is appreciated,
the sun is shining, we're having fun.

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The Italo disco songs listened to
at the disco

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they were equivalent to postcards,
gadgets, t-shirts.

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They were a souvenir of Italy,

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of that hot Italy, Italy
of the summer that never ended.

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So many impressions
and so many feelings...

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Italo disco remained
with me for many years.

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Sensational, truly.

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In the late 70s
of the last century

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a bizarre genre is born
in the music scene.

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It almost seems to come 
from another universe.

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Intense electronic rhythms,
simple synthetic sounds

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and lyrics mostly sung
in shaky English.

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A unique musical mix

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which was born in the Bel Paese

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and then conquers the world
within a short time.

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An art light years away
by committed songwriters

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of the same decade.

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Alcuni lo dicono tuttora.

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Italo disco is the genre
definitely less cool

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that has ever been created.

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I don't think so, no.
The music press

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criticized Italo disco
bluntly, but...

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I always thought
that I should have explained

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to journalists how they were doing
really things.

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Of course, it is clear that...

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some key elements

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they were fragile or rushed,

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often too melodic,
too pop, too kitsch,

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almost trashy. There were, yes,
but there was a lot of good.

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The beginnings of Italo disco

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for me they were innovative.

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And that's why it's difficult
classify Italo disco
with a single name.

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And that's why I have to
say, for my part,

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which Italo disco is in part
the most incredible trash

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and partly the most total genius.

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Creating a global success
it's practically impossible...

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Many people don't understand.
"What do we need? Two bangs and go."

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Try doing it!

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I remember who we were
in your kitchen

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and there was, as usual,
a synth.

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There was always a synth
somewhere in the house,

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even in the kitchen.

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We were with two characters,
the Righeiras.

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We set out to...

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and a song came.

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"Let's go to the beach!"

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Afterwards it's always easy
say "You're done

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a commercial piece."

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Damn commercial!

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because it was something
totally different

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from what was there at the time,

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and the impact on the public
and with the market it was devastating.

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Devastating!

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And it devastated in some ways
us too.

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Born from collaboration
among the creativity of the Righeiras

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and the creativity of the two La Bionda,
in 1983 "Let's go to the playa"

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has become
a global hit.

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Few pay attention

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to underground vibes
of the song, in those years,

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to the almost dystopian text
about nuclear explosions,

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to harmful radioactive winds.

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It was electronic new wave
with Kraftwerk influences,

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which eventually came out
something that at the beginning

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venne rifiutato spesso
from record companies

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because the piece was strange.

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Let's go to La Playa!

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The "Playa" is not only
a central element

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for the Spanish chorus
of the band Righeira.

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It is also one of the places
di punta per lo sviluppo

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of Italo disco music.

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It's about the beach
of the Adriatic coast.

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Always a member of parliament
to dancing, to music

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and great fun.

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In 1975, not surprisingly,

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in Gabicce, on the coast,
opens a nightclub

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which comes two years earlier
the famous place

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Studio 54 in New York.

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A unique place in Europe.

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It is the Bay of Angels.

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If you try to condense
the overall story

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of the Italo disco genre,

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maybe you can bring it back

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at the Bay of Angels,

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where a rich Italian

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he made the dream come true
of a parallel universe

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where you can dance
for several days, have fun

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and isolate yourself from all over the world.

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The venue has become so influential

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that almost all over Italy

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after the Bay of Angels

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Sinile venues were born.

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We are not talking about "discos".

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In the Italian context
there were "megadiscos",

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places that match
to a vision,

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to a new interpretation
of time.

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Dei locali grandi, aperti,
that contain people.

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Able to integrate.

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very democratic,

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where they didn't ask you
who were you at the entrance.

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They were designated places
to a new form

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of free time.

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And if we don't decline

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Italo dance, Italo music,

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let's define it as we like,
with the discovery

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and then with colonization
of free time,

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we will never understand why
of these places,

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where it was possible to dream,

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also through music,

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naturally not excellent,
the critics would say,

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but who cares.

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But with music that allowed
to fill the floors of mega discos.

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The Bay also had
a strategic position.

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On the Gabicce hill,
this construction

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fronte mare poteva contare
on a beautiful panorama

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and technological innovations.

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For example, the DJ booth
it was located in an elevator.

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And since the Bay had two
or three floors,

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that elevator was used by the DJ
to look at the track below,

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then to move on to the first floors
and watch the slopes above.

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And the DJ himself, while he saw
the whole place,

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It also had a sea view,

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where laser beams were projected.

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It was an innovation that didn't exist before.
Previously, in the 1960s,

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the DJ was someone
che semplicemente prendeva

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the discs
who were from the club
and played them one after the other.

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That wasn't art at all.

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The Italians were among the first
to turn things upside down.

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The disc jockey was a creator,
he created sound worlds
completely new.

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The disc jockey as an artist
it is an invention of the Italians

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occurred during the 1970s.

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Italy was leader in Europe

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regarding DJ culture.
For years and years

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I couldn't play over there.

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Not before the 90s.

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Why be a DJ in the 80s
it was a big business in Italy.

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Between nightlife, club culture,

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production of musical works,

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labels and large distributors...

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it was a huge industry in Italy.

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An international group!
More international than that
you die.

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Let's make them say it, come on.
Where are you from?

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- Trinidad.
- Trinidad. And you?

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-Martinique
-Martinique. And you?

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-Germany.
-Germany. And you?

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-England.
-England.

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Where do you come from?
But I'm Italian!

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Bravo! A round of applause for the Italians!

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From Catania!

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This excellent mix!

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of Italian background,

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dell'arte di arrangiarsi
and the desire to imitate

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every American sound

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it gave birth to new types

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of great pop music.

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The La Bionda brothers are
were brilliant in understanding

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than this new mix

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of various artistic genres

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it was often much more pop

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of the original disc.

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The precursors, the nominatives,

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those who define the perimeter,

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the Argonauts.

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We came from pop,
from the Beatles, from these things,

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and we wanted to introduce
these elements on the disc.

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The Italian art of making do...
but we liked everything.

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La Bionda makes you understand

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that there is something that unites

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craftsmanship, craftsmanship,

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to an international style

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Mediterraneans ranging from south to north. 
On a contrary path

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and opposed to Abba.

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In fact, there are Abba

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that from Sweden, new
Normans, they arrive everywhere,

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and there are the La Bionda brothers,

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with very simple melodic riffs,

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that invade the world.

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In their artistic journey
and cultural,

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which will lead them to land
to Italo disco electronics,

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Germany is a stopover
key for the La Bionda brothers.

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Negli anni '70, qui si trovava
the pulsating capital

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of the discos in Europe.
Munich.

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Disco and the city of Munich

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they become one upon leaving
since the mid-1970s.

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Munich is one of the first centers

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in which discomania breaks out.

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Since they were there in Munich

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many high level musical studies,

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and many American musicians

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level, and since in Monaco,

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as in all of Germany,
there were American soldiers

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with their radio stations,
numerous German cities

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they were centers of culture
American. Including Monaco.

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This combination
of items led

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producers and musicians,
but also singers,

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to move to Munich
to join

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of this musical bubble
so innovative.

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The workplace,
for us Italy opened up,

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and the opening radius
of this place

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of work and proposal
Europe was musical.

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In this location,

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Monaco it really was

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the central point of reference

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where the desire came from
of new music.

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For us it was fascinating
precisely because of the sense of novelty

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compared to that
what we were used to doing.

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It was the change
that we were looking for.

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Munich had a history
of sound behind it

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thanks to some characters
like Karajan.

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Karajan was obsessed

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from your records.
Obsessed.

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He was a perfectionist, 
and always wanted to

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than the orchestral parts

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they had their own voice,
so to speak.

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And this was achievable

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only with certain techniques
of miking

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and certain ways of recording
cutting edge.

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In short, in Munich
there was great awareness

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what the sound was.

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And there were tools too 
available.

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In fact, after the guitar,
the piano and the sax,

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the study had become
the new tool.

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Ladies and gentlemen,

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what you hear
it's not my voice.

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It's a vocoder.

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In Monaco, La Bionda
they also meet

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the revolutionary sound
of another Italian

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which he had already crossed
the Alps before them.

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It was Giorgio Moroder,
from South Tyrol,

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creator of Munich Sound.

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His muse?
Donna Summer.

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Munich Sound at the time
it was a revolution

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and the idea of a distant future,
maybe even fifteen years.

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With the song "I Feel Love"
it was already indicated,

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with extreme precision,
come poteva essere il futuro.

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Long before house,
just before Italo disco.

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In 1977, at least it seems to me,

255
00:15:29,564 --> 00:15:33,716
Giorgio Moroder in Munich
gave the go-ahead

256
00:15:33,716 --> 00:15:37,699
to a musical revolution
unprecedented.

257
00:16:01,410 --> 00:16:04,998
Disco music of the 70s
leaves with La Bionda.

258
00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:07,346
They are fundamental

259
00:16:07,346 --> 00:16:10,693
for Italian disco music
of the highest level.

260
00:16:10,693 --> 00:16:12,580
Then there is also Celso Valli,

261
00:16:12,580 --> 00:16:15,665
there's Pino Presti, there's Mauro
Malavasi, very important,

262
00:16:15,665 --> 00:16:19,229
there is Claudio Simonetti,
and then together with him I am there

263
00:16:19,229 --> 00:16:22,176
Vivien Vee and Easy Going.

264
00:16:22,176 --> 00:16:25,227
And Easy Going takes it
the name from a nightclub

265
00:16:25,227 --> 00:16:28,970
for gays that I had opened
precisely in '77.

266
00:16:35,621 --> 00:16:36,899
"Baby I Love you"

267
00:16:36,899 --> 00:16:40,646
It really gives you the push
to be able to pass

268
00:16:40,646 --> 00:16:44,684
since that decade
to the following decade.

269
00:16:51,654 --> 00:16:53,711
The Easy Going group

270
00:16:53,711 --> 00:16:57,382
announces that the Italo disco
it's around the corner,

271
00:16:57,382 --> 00:16:59,988
that is coming. From what
do we understand it?

272
00:16:59,988 --> 00:17:02,646
From two elements
First element, the colors

273
00:17:02,646 --> 00:17:07,254
and the choreographies are reminiscent
gay culture from Studio 54.

274
00:17:09,834 --> 00:17:13,208
Second element,
the fact that the disco,

275
00:17:13,208 --> 00:17:18,565
in short, it becomes a place
of encounters and possible flirtations.

276
00:17:27,814 --> 00:17:32,540
Many people think
whether I'm the blonde or the redhead,

277
00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:36,159
but I don't even know anymore
what video I was in for The Flirts.

278
00:17:37,134 --> 00:17:41,622
We did many things...
And I was just the voice, at first.

279
00:17:41,622 --> 00:17:44,777
For The Flirts and other works
by Bobby Orlando.

280
00:17:44,777 --> 00:17:46,750
It was typical
for 80's music.

281
00:17:46,750 --> 00:17:50,217
First you made a song,
then, if he was successful,

282
00:17:50,217 --> 00:17:53,314
The producer thought about who
put on the cover.

283
00:17:53,314 --> 00:17:56,448
Suddenly, the girls

284
00:17:56,448 --> 00:17:59,015
on the cover of The Flirts
hanno lasciato il gruppo

285
00:17:59,015 --> 00:18:02,428
and it had been organised
a tour of America, Canada

286
00:18:02,428 --> 00:18:04,779
and, of course, Europe.

287
00:18:11,474 --> 00:18:15,754
So I had to leave
from studying and performing.

288
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,506
I became the redhead.

289
00:18:19,506 --> 00:18:22,084
I had to cut myself
your hair, dye it red...

290
00:18:22,084 --> 00:18:24,803
Oddio, è stato pazzesco!

291
00:18:29,031 --> 00:18:32,210
The Flirts, the sex appeal
of Italo disco.

292
00:18:32,210 --> 00:18:35,473
It's an important thing,
the gender variable.

293
00:18:35,473 --> 00:18:38,223
Their presence
it was very important,

294
00:18:38,223 --> 00:18:40,585
because he was already doing a little
to counteract

295
00:18:40,585 --> 00:18:44,397
of dominant machismo,
let's say machismo...

296
00:18:44,397 --> 00:18:47,941
very exhibited and counterfeit
in some cases,

297
00:18:47,941 --> 00:18:50,984
very present in Italo disco.

298
00:18:55,502 --> 00:19:01,958
🎵oh, I'm ready for your passion.
Oh, I'm looking for your loving.🎵

299
00:19:01,958 --> 00:19:05,549
"Passion" by The Flirts,
I love that song!

300
00:19:05,549 --> 00:19:08,424
The Italo disco song
American number one.

301
00:19:08,424 --> 00:19:12,720
Linda Jo Rizzo? Brilliant.
He was in The Flirts then.

302
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,842
Yes, Linda was very close
to Italo disco in Europe,

303
00:19:18,842 --> 00:19:21,721
But if I want to stick to it

304
00:19:21,721 --> 00:19:24,939
to my rigid definition
of Italo disco

305
00:19:24,939 --> 00:19:29,296
come genere creato, fatto
and published by Italiani...

306
00:19:29,296 --> 00:19:34,506
Sorry, Linda! You were on the fringes
of Italo disco.

307
00:20:09,654 --> 00:20:11,445
Here it is, Italo disco.

308
00:20:11,445 --> 00:20:13,892
This synthesizer
so aggressive

309
00:20:13,892 --> 00:20:17,062
it's only in Italo disco.

310
00:21:12,727 --> 00:21:17,177
In the records of the 80s
and especially in Italo disco,

311
00:21:17,177 --> 00:21:21,411
the use of technology
electronics is fundamental.

312
00:21:21,411 --> 00:21:25,396
And this he represented
a novelty in Italy.

313
00:21:25,396 --> 00:21:29,002
The use of these tools
forces the composer

314
00:21:29,002 --> 00:21:32,057
to create music
specially designed

315
00:21:32,057 --> 00:21:35,904
for this type of sound.
So change your mindset.

316
00:21:36,565 --> 00:21:38,628
He came out every two or three months
a new keyboard

317
00:21:38,628 --> 00:21:42,494
or an electronic drum kit
new, and this gave

318
00:21:42,494 --> 00:21:44,748
to producers and arrangers

319
00:21:44,748 --> 00:21:48,363
the possibility of drawing
to ever-changing sounds.

320
00:21:48,363 --> 00:21:51,736
it was a moment
of great novelty,

321
00:21:51,736 --> 00:21:54,425
with keyboards and instruments
that arrived

322
00:21:54,425 --> 00:21:57,191
e noi che assorbivamo
these new sounds

323
00:21:57,191 --> 00:22:01,323
and we tried to adopt them,
to make them ours,

324
00:22:01,323 --> 00:22:03,748
to then learn how to use them.

325
00:22:03,748 --> 00:22:07,262
And it was hard to learn
to use the equipment.

326
00:22:07,262 --> 00:22:10,458
The first moment when 
I listened to Italo disco

327
00:22:10,458 --> 00:22:15,512
I was shocked.
It was full of synthesizers!

328
00:22:15,512 --> 00:22:20,437
And I was born in the 70s
with traditional music,

329
00:22:20,437 --> 00:22:25,090
the synthesizer was new
of mint, in 1980,

330
00:22:25,090 --> 00:22:28,205
in a lot of British music
that I listened to.

331
00:22:28,205 --> 00:22:31,328
But then they arrived,
the Italians,

332
00:22:31,328 --> 00:22:33,626
with all those synthesizers,

333
00:22:33,626 --> 00:22:37,002
and they knew how to give to the songs
a bolder spirit

334
00:22:37,002 --> 00:22:39,521
which left me speechless!

335
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,598
Definitely, Italo disco
there are two souls.

336
00:23:25,598 --> 00:23:29,247
One is the more technical one,
of arrangements and sounds,

337
00:23:29,247 --> 00:23:32,744
that comes from the tools
electronic, above all.

338
00:23:32,744 --> 00:23:37,095
And the other...
it's the romantic streak

339
00:23:37,095 --> 00:23:41,321
which had Italo disco music.
And that's exactly why

340
00:23:41,321 --> 00:23:44,616
that many songs have
had great success,

341
00:23:44,616 --> 00:23:47,692
because the electronic part,
combined

342
00:23:47,692 --> 00:23:50,011
to this melodic magic,

343
00:23:50,011 --> 00:23:54,324
It made the audience 
it could be immense.

344
00:24:10,386 --> 00:24:12,873
"I like Chopin" doesn't make you
sure to think

345
00:24:12,873 --> 00:24:15,315
to electronic music
very driven,

346
00:24:15,315 --> 00:24:19,007
but it is one of many souls
by Pierluigi Giombini.

347
00:24:19,007 --> 00:24:21,483
He's a romantic soul,

348
00:24:21,483 --> 00:24:24,012
it's almost the new romantics
of Italo disco

349
00:24:24,012 --> 00:24:30,000
and the greatest exponent
is Paul Mazzolini, or Gazebo.

350
00:24:34,493 --> 00:24:39,532
Just the thought of submitting
to Chopin one of my songs

351
00:24:39,532 --> 00:24:43,489
it put me in a state
of terror.

352
00:24:43,489 --> 00:24:47,777
So, I tell you the truth.
I wish I didn't let him hear it,

353
00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:50,096
and not knowing what he thinks.

354
00:24:52,034 --> 00:24:56,541
What he might perceive
such a genius, listening

355
00:24:56,541 --> 00:25:01,763
these incredible sounds... for him?
What would you think or say?

356
00:25:01,763 --> 00:25:05,682
It would be interesting to know.
Unfortunately we will never know.

357
00:25:15,901 --> 00:25:19,759
In Italy, those who came from abroad

358
00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:27,830
you danced to a song, you listened to it,
maybe you would go home
with the 45 rpm as I remember

359
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:32,267
of a beautiful stay
in the endless summer

360
00:25:32,267 --> 00:25:34,905
with the sun of Rimini, Riccione,

361
00:25:34,905 --> 00:25:38,382
Positano, whatever you want.

362
00:25:38,382 --> 00:25:40,701
Italo disco was almost
the national anthem,

363
00:25:40,701 --> 00:25:42,801
it was the background,

364
00:25:42,801 --> 00:25:45,752
it was the soundtrack
of that summer.

365
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,796
In Italy, the discos
they were out of this world.

366
00:26:05,796 --> 00:26:09,733
L'Altromondo Studios
in Rimini it was fantastic.

367
00:26:09,733 --> 00:26:13,613
There was a spaceship outside
that took off from Earth

368
00:26:13,613 --> 00:26:16,391
and there were robots inside
on the dance floor.

369
00:26:16,391 --> 00:26:18,966
As part of the show,
every evening, moreover,

370
00:26:18,966 --> 00:26:22,134
a spaceship lifted off the floor.

371
00:26:22,134 --> 00:26:27,830
I had never seen it
something like that!

372
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,488
And then these flyers

373
00:26:39,488 --> 00:26:43,335
elaborate and very beautiful
to take home...

374
00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:46,205
The whole setup
it was really special,

375
00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:49,150
an event in itself.
Even the lights were different than usual, that's it.

376
00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:52,520
It was all hypermodern,
an unprecedented world.

377
00:26:54,134 --> 00:26:56,134
It was the Italian touch,
the Italian touch,

378
00:26:56,134 --> 00:26:59,201
what now
it's called Made in Italy.

379
00:26:59,201 --> 00:27:04,064
It was all there, the attention
retail, the audience,

380
00:27:04,064 --> 00:27:06,235
il senso di condivisione,
the details,

381
00:27:06,235 --> 00:27:11,835
the details, the decorated flyers,
free tickets,

382
00:27:11,835 --> 00:27:16,554
attention, first of all,
to aesthetics.

383
00:27:17,699 --> 00:27:20,000
Italy dances for aesthetics.

384
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,593
We don't dance to make a revolution,
like in Mexico,

385
00:27:23,593 --> 00:27:27,865
you don't dance to change
the world, as in London.

386
00:27:27,865 --> 00:27:30,735
We dance because we dress up
to dance,

387
00:27:30,735 --> 00:27:35,000
we dance because maybe we're broken
my back all week,

388
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,501
but with your beautiful one you want it
go dancing.

389
00:27:38,501 --> 00:27:40,831
This is it here, the Italian touch.

390
00:27:40,831 --> 00:27:44,267
That scrupulous attention
and almost maniacal

391
00:27:44,267 --> 00:27:46,205
to dancing as a social ritual.

392
00:27:46,205 --> 00:27:49,335
In Italian discos
there were German tourists,

393
00:27:49,335 --> 00:27:52,301
Scandinavians and even Danes.

394
00:27:52,301 --> 00:27:56,118
Who lived that new type
of disco, in summer,

395
00:27:56,118 --> 00:28:00,129
after the holidays he returned
in your hometown

396
00:28:00,129 --> 00:28:01,801
and wanted to find him at home.

397
00:28:01,801 --> 00:28:04,401
Consequently, the songs
of Italian discos

398
00:28:04,401 --> 00:28:06,446
were on the radio in Germany.

399
00:28:06,446 --> 00:28:10,938
And they became a hit
also in Sweden and England.

400
00:28:18,294 --> 00:28:21,069
I went on holiday to London.

401
00:28:21,069 --> 00:28:25,274
I couldn't believe it!
"Dolce Vita" was on the radio.

402
00:28:25,274 --> 00:28:27,961
In addition to Michael Jackson,

403
00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:34,524
Culture Beat and Elton John
there was "Dolce Vita" on the radio!

404
00:28:35,801 --> 00:28:38,868
"Dolce Vita", a success
with four million copies,

405
00:28:38,868 --> 00:28:42,695
is initially rejected
from many record companies

406
00:28:42,695 --> 00:28:45,118
Pierluigi Giombini, overworked
from debts,

407
00:28:45,118 --> 00:28:48,001
in 1982 he managed to propose
the song

408
00:28:48,001 --> 00:28:50,564
to Severo Lombardoni,

409
00:28:50,564 --> 00:28:53,780
one of the most important
record producers

410
00:28:53,780 --> 00:28:57,403
of Italo dance music
electronics of the time.

411
00:28:57,403 --> 00:29:02,469
Severino was a great man and a great agent.

412
00:29:02,469 --> 00:29:04,913
His was a business
family, almost.

413
00:29:04,913 --> 00:29:07,868
His sister managed
licensing agreements.

414
00:29:07,868 --> 00:29:10,001
He, on the other hand, was gifted
for music.

415
00:29:10,001 --> 00:29:14,935
Lots of disc jockeys
and producers and more

416
00:29:14,935 --> 00:29:19,101
they went to Lombardoni
and they offered him pieces.

417
00:29:20,001 --> 00:29:21,165
I went to Lombardoni.

418
00:29:21,165 --> 00:29:24,535
It was an incredible thing.
He listened to her and said:

419
00:29:25,344 --> 00:29:27,800
"That's the sound, I recognize it, I like it,

420
00:29:28,223 --> 00:29:31,401
but I don't like the song that much."

421
00:29:32,017 --> 00:29:36,070
I felt bad.
I still had some money,

422
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:38,626
I would have gotten a gun.

423
00:29:39,197 --> 00:29:41,926
At that moment he enters
a girl who was

424
00:29:41,926 --> 00:29:47,001
a secretary. He said:
"What a beautiful song!"

425
00:29:48,322 --> 00:29:53,708
And he does, with his accent
from Bergamo,
"Do you like it?"

426
00:29:53,708 --> 00:29:59,015
And she said, "It's beautiful."

427
00:30:20,863 --> 00:30:25,637
We had attitudes
very plastic, too.

428
00:30:25,637 --> 00:30:27,719
And then, making them in two
were strengthened,

429
00:30:27,719 --> 00:30:31,000
a bit like routines
of soul musicians,

430
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,135
who did ballets
all together, right?

431
00:30:33,135 --> 00:30:35,449
Our poses were not
not at all soulful,

432
00:30:35,449 --> 00:30:37,635
but they were futuristic poses,

433
00:30:37,635 --> 00:30:39,766
because we were thinking about the future.

434
00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:48,067
The "punks" destroyed
everything and they said, "No future."

435
00:30:48,067 --> 00:30:50,411
So the next step
it was to hook futurism

436
00:30:50,411 --> 00:30:51,969
on this attitude of doing

437
00:30:51,969 --> 00:30:56,332
something new.
Which is why we set out...

438
00:30:56,993 --> 00:30:59,209
we pointed to the future.

439
00:30:59,209 --> 00:31:02,745
Cioè... pose futuriste.
See the photos of the futurists,

440
00:31:02,745 --> 00:31:05,923
and they are all like us.
We were futurists...

441
00:31:05,923 --> 00:31:10,232
I'm still a futurist.

442
00:31:14,334 --> 00:31:16,854
It's a crazy video
that of "No tengo dinero".

443
00:31:16,854 --> 00:31:19,365
Paradigmatic and decisive.

444
00:31:19,365 --> 00:31:21,998
It's a great introduction
to the most extreme dynamism,

445
00:31:21,998 --> 00:31:25,788
to dynamism to vorticism
of futurism.

446
00:31:25,788 --> 00:31:29,462
Marinetti's true popularizers
in Italy it was the Righeira family.

447
00:31:29,462 --> 00:31:31,169
Not art critics.

448
00:31:54,033 --> 00:31:57,994
Italo disco, as it were
was presented then,

449
00:31:57,994 --> 00:31:59,690
it disgusted me a little,
 I have to say,

450
00:31:59,690 --> 00:32:02,637
I considered it very commercial, very "cheesy",

451
00:32:02,637 --> 00:32:03,720
as they say.

452
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,162
It wasn't music
which I liked.

453
00:32:06,834 --> 00:32:09,125
Then I realised
which is a container

454
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:14,554
very varied, it cannot be considered a genre
but a set of subgenres.

455
00:32:15,505 --> 00:32:21,697
And so he discovered that in addition to commercial records
like "I like Chopin"

456
00:32:21,697 --> 00:32:25,205
there are also records
very particular,

457
00:32:25,205 --> 00:32:27,205
Molto underground, come Koto
"Chinese Revenge",

458
00:32:27,205 --> 00:32:30,157
A fabulous piece for me
which I still play.

459
00:32:30,157 --> 00:32:33,409
I've been playing Koto for 50 years now.

460
00:32:38,934 --> 00:32:44,488
Italo disco is complex.
It's underground and commercial

461
00:32:44,488 --> 00:32:49,038
and that's exactly the beauty of it
of Italo disco.

462
00:32:52,687 --> 00:32:55,240
You don't throw away music
nothing away.

463
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,671
In fact, a song that maybe thirty years ago
it disgusted me,

464
00:32:59,671 --> 00:33:03,827
today I can rediscover it and maybe I'll play it at 33 rpm

465
00:33:03,827 --> 00:33:06,893
and not at 45... and the miracle happens.

466
00:33:28,067 --> 00:33:30,067
They are there in Italo disco

467
00:33:30,067 --> 00:33:33,651
lots of songs
which are not very well known,

468
00:33:33,651 --> 00:33:34,785
e questo dispiace.

469
00:33:34,785 --> 00:33:41,633
Because there are songs,
instead in my opinion, absolutely, excellent.

470
00:33:44,473 --> 00:33:46,895
"Cybernetic love" helmet

471
00:33:46,895 --> 00:33:49,766
It's one of the ones to wear
in the top 10,

472
00:33:49,766 --> 00:33:52,035
it is produced by Salvatore Cusato,

473
00:33:52,035 --> 00:33:53,436
Aka Casco,

474
00:33:53,436 --> 00:33:59,400
a DJ who comes from Calabria with a cardboard suitcase and goes to work in Switzerland.

475
00:34:00,445 --> 00:34:02,445
In that song, you have...

476
00:34:02,445 --> 00:34:05,206
the Chemical Brothers

477
00:34:05,206 --> 00:34:09,177
for, say, management
of the piece,

478
00:34:09,177 --> 00:34:11,261
Daft Punk.

479
00:34:11,261 --> 00:34:16,574
I could say two or three different levels
of House music.

480
00:34:16,574 --> 00:34:21,128
Cybernetic love.

481
00:34:21,128 --> 00:34:24,405
A love letter
towards the future,

482
00:34:24,405 --> 00:34:29,354
on the road to Italo disco.
Very important.

483
00:34:36,357 --> 00:34:40,267
When you listen to the songs
older than Italo disco

484
00:34:40,267 --> 00:34:41,557
and then Daft Punk,

485
00:34:41,557 --> 00:34:44,600
you realize how much 
are similar and related

486
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,837
these two currents.

487
00:34:45,837 --> 00:34:48,111
Daft Punk almost tries

488
00:34:48,111 --> 00:34:52,135
to play Italo disco music
of the 70s and 80s.

489
00:34:52,135 --> 00:34:56,247
In short, many Italians
they made music

490
00:34:56,247 --> 00:34:57,719
in a far-sighted way,

491
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,630
in some cases rediscovering
styles that are actually finished

492
00:35:01,630 --> 00:35:05,411
into the mainstream twenty years later.

493
00:35:28,182 --> 00:35:30,289
All'inizio degli anni '80,
the German importer

494
00:35:30,289 --> 00:35:32,965
Bernhard Mikulski discovers
the musical offering

495
00:35:32,965 --> 00:35:36,658
by Severo Lombardoni
and his colleagues

496
00:35:36,658 --> 00:35:39,476
and start spreading
Italian sounds

497
00:35:39,476 --> 00:35:42,126
beyond the borders of the country.

498
00:35:42,126 --> 00:35:46,382
My husband was in the world
of music for a long time.

499
00:35:46,382 --> 00:35:50,203
He had already produced a lot,
at the time, he was an expert.

500
00:35:50,203 --> 00:35:55,179
He knew how to judge immediately
if a song was a hit.

501
00:35:55,179 --> 00:36:01,694
I understood it too
and I advised him what to do

502
00:36:01,694 --> 00:36:04,228
when he had doubts.

503
00:36:04,228 --> 00:36:07,867
It was a person
very important in my career,
why

504
00:36:07,867 --> 00:36:10,579
he always believed in me.

505
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:13,940
Bernhard understood
that...

506
00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:17,097
Italo disco was one
wave of freshness in music.

507
00:36:17,097 --> 00:36:21,795
He understood that it was there
of the business and then took the plunge.

508
00:36:22,934 --> 00:36:29,343
One day, someone
gave us a tip.
There was a company

509
00:36:29,343 --> 00:36:33,190
in Milan that he had
a little wizard

510
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:38,737
on the back of the label.
We went to Milan

511
00:36:38,737 --> 00:36:42,390
and we looked for it.
It was really hard...

512
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:45,109
It wasn't easy
meet the right guys

513
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:48,570
on the right path,
not speaking Italian.

514
00:36:49,341 --> 00:36:53,943
The term "Italo Disco" was created
by Bernhard Mikulski.

515
00:36:53,943 --> 00:36:57,924
In one of his song compilations

516
00:36:57,924 --> 00:36:59,594
mine style,

517
00:36:59,594 --> 00:37:01,731
he wanted to advertise

518
00:37:01,731 --> 00:37:03,632
that they were songs of that type...

519
00:37:03,632 --> 00:37:05,408
e si  inventò lo slogan "Italo Disco"

520
00:37:05,408 --> 00:37:07,356
From there 'Italo disco was born.

521
00:37:08,634 --> 00:37:11,587
It was a widespread reference.
This production

522
00:37:11,587 --> 00:37:18,163
does he come from Italy? Excellent,
let's talk about "Italo disco".

523
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,569
-And here's Savage.
-Savage.

524
00:37:36,569 --> 00:37:38,121
But this name
where did you catch it?

525
00:37:38,121 --> 00:37:41,344
Eh, I caught it
in the French vocabulary.

526
00:37:43,018 --> 00:37:47,666
In the 80s it was fashionable
have an international name.

527
00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:52,092
I was passionate about a comic
which was called "Doc Savage"

528
00:37:52,092 --> 00:37:58,253
and I liked the word,
"Savage", but pronounced in French.

529
00:38:11,863 --> 00:38:18,602
"Don't cry tonight" was written
in a quarter of an hour, ten minutes.

530
00:38:18,602 --> 00:38:22,598
I sat there in the typewriter 
come si usavano negli anni '80...

531
00:38:22,598 --> 00:38:26,760
I jotted down the lyrics
and so she was born.

532
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,568
I, as a character,
I'm a little introverted,

533
00:38:29,568 --> 00:38:32,468
so at first find myself in front

534
00:38:32,468 --> 00:38:36,722
to the camera and then also
to thousands of people

535
00:38:36,722 --> 00:38:38,408
who look straight ahead
towards me

536
00:38:38,408 --> 00:38:42,194
it was a little strong.

537
00:38:42,194 --> 00:38:44,236
Since I didn't know how to dance

538
00:38:44,236 --> 00:38:47,153
and I had to invent it
something special,

539
00:38:47,153 --> 00:38:50,373
that's why I had the idea
to make gestures with your hands,

540
00:38:50,373 --> 00:38:52,392
maybe put your hands on me
before my eyes,

541
00:38:52,392 --> 00:38:55,093
make particular movements.

542
00:39:11,734 --> 00:39:15,076
What characterized Italo disco

543
00:39:15,076 --> 00:39:17,567
it was radical impudence

544
00:39:17,567 --> 00:39:21,646
of many Italian producers,

545
00:39:21,646 --> 00:39:25,382
which they often chose
some singers without thinking

546
00:39:25,382 --> 00:39:27,189
to the artist's personality.

547
00:39:27,189 --> 00:39:29,402
It was something new,

548
00:39:29,402 --> 00:39:32,243
what they did in Italy.
I didn't know,

549
00:39:32,243 --> 00:39:35,035
nor my husband,

550
00:39:35,035 --> 00:39:37,340
which they put, let's say,

551
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:39,060
fake artists on the front line.

552
00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:42,091
The fake model

553
00:39:42,091 --> 00:39:45,346
of this musical style
it took a little

554
00:39:45,346 --> 00:39:47,655
let's say, from flower to flower.

555
00:39:47,655 --> 00:39:52,019
You needed a body,
un gruppo, un coro,

556
00:39:52,019 --> 00:39:54,273
you needed a look, etc.

557
00:39:54,273 --> 00:39:56,030
That was the norm,
in Italo disco.

558
00:39:56,030 --> 00:39:58,197
It became a scandal
only twenty years later,

559
00:39:58,197 --> 00:40:03,123
in Germany, by chance
by Milli Vanilli.

560
00:40:03,123 --> 00:40:08,627
Know that the singers
they didn't sing, I mean.

561
00:40:08,627 --> 00:40:10,990
And ask to return
their Grammy!

562
00:40:10,990 --> 00:40:14,494
Nobody thought
than the idea of fake rumors

563
00:40:14,494 --> 00:40:18,033
had been invented
in Italy twenty years earlier.

564
00:40:18,033 --> 00:40:19,684
Or at least normalized.

565
00:40:19,684 --> 00:40:21,795
I saw a few girls
get rowdy here.

566
00:40:21,795 --> 00:40:24,989
It only happens for Den Harrow
or even for others?

567
00:40:24,989 --> 00:40:28,626
One of the perfect examples
of project and a voice

568
00:40:28,626 --> 00:40:31,526
it was Den Harrow.

569
00:40:34,786 --> 00:40:38,397
Everyone knew Tom Hooker
he was the singer

570
00:40:38,397 --> 00:40:39,686
and Den Harrow

571
00:40:39,686 --> 00:40:42,933
it was the image that then rose
on stage and went on television,

572
00:40:42,933 --> 00:40:45,332
but it was fine with everyone.

573
00:40:45,772 --> 00:40:47,870
It's the same with The Flirts.
È lo stesso  con...

574
00:40:47,870 --> 00:40:52,451
I don't want to mention any other names,
because it's not right, but...

575
00:40:52,451 --> 00:40:56,579
I don't think it really matters.

576
00:41:02,834 --> 00:41:07,942
Den Harrow, pronounced
in Italian, it is "money".

577
00:41:07,942 --> 00:41:10,291
And "money" means "money".

578
00:41:10,291 --> 00:41:14,302
Here is the fulcrum of Italo disco,
however fictionalized

579
00:41:14,302 --> 00:41:17,732
then by fans and disc jockeys.

580
00:41:18,569 --> 00:41:23,722
Den Harrow, money, money, money.

581
00:41:27,246 --> 00:41:30,713
Fans love specific artists.

582
00:41:30,713 --> 00:41:33,716
They have a dream, an ideal, a love.

583
00:41:33,716 --> 00:41:36,266
And rightly so.
It doesn't matter that.

584
00:41:36,266 --> 00:41:41,352
What really matters
it's the song, the success.

585
00:41:49,677 --> 00:41:53,367
Fans are very important

586
00:41:53,367 --> 00:41:57,137
because it's your connection
with the outside world.

587
00:41:57,577 --> 00:42:01,471
Although Italo disco
is dominated by men,

588
00:42:01,471 --> 00:42:06,319
its final phase reveals
sensual vitality

589
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:09,712
di una giovane ragazza
that makes you dream

590
00:42:09,712 --> 00:42:12,667
with open eyes millions
of his peers.

591
00:42:13,196 --> 00:42:17,624
Every big move
needs an icon,

592
00:42:17,624 --> 00:42:21,217
he needs a queen

593
00:42:21,217 --> 00:42:24,927
he needs someone
that makes you understand

594
00:42:24,927 --> 00:42:26,428
that times have changed.

595
00:42:26,428 --> 00:42:28,997
This queen, this icon...

596
00:42:28,997 --> 00:42:31,995
Name and surname are enough,
without adding anything else.

597
00:42:31,995 --> 00:42:36,457
Sabrina Salerno singing "Boys"

598
00:42:43,284 --> 00:42:48,042
It is the height of epic
of Italo disco.

599
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,259
The first time I understood
to be very famous,

600
00:42:53,259 --> 00:42:56,357
it was at an airport
Spanish.

601
00:42:56,357 --> 00:42:59,737
I was waiting for the luggage
together with the road manager

602
00:42:59,737 --> 00:43:02,855
and at a certain point they open
the doors and I see

603
00:43:02,855 --> 00:43:07,013
twenty photographers, and I say to myself:
“Wow! Surely there will be

604
00:43:07,013 --> 00:43:08,749
Mick Jagger or Rod Stewart".

605
00:43:08,749 --> 00:43:14,734
I made a movie in my head
because I was convinced there was
a world star.

606
00:43:15,263 --> 00:43:18,074
Those from the record company
they warned me,

607
00:43:18,074 --> 00:43:18,956
they told me:

608
00:43:18,956 --> 00:43:23,635
“Look at that on you
there's crazy attention."

609
00:43:23,635 --> 00:43:26,967
"You're in first place
in the rankings."

610
00:43:29,134 --> 00:43:31,449
And when I went out

611
00:43:31,449 --> 00:43:33,876
I had a shock,
because among other things I was...

612
00:43:33,876 --> 00:43:35,408
without makeup,

613
00:43:35,408 --> 00:43:37,302
dressed in sneakers and

614
00:43:37,302 --> 00:43:40,326
very simple jeans like a little girl

615
00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:41,658
of that age.

616
00:43:41,658 --> 00:43:43,773
And there I got into the car
and I said:

617
00:43:43,773 --> 00:43:47,164
"Okay, I understand.
Now I'm famous."

618
00:43:47,164 --> 00:43:50,745
It was a bit…Wow!
A cold shower.

619
00:43:54,445 --> 00:43:56,811
When I sang "Boys"

620
00:43:56,811 --> 00:44:00,235
my pronunciation was terrible, you could tell
that I wasn't English.

621
00:44:00,235 --> 00:44:01,160
But...

622
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,774
the video, my physicality

623
00:44:02,774 --> 00:44:06,323
and the song so simple
to sing

624
00:44:06,323 --> 00:44:09,619
it was the trump card.

625
00:44:16,137 --> 00:44:17,752
Fellini defines it...

626
00:44:17,752 --> 00:44:19,887
the most eloquent representative

627
00:44:19,887 --> 00:44:21,688
of the Italian woman
contemporary...

628
00:44:21,688 --> 00:44:22,326
My goodness!

629
00:44:22,326 --> 00:44:24,883
Feminists in Bilbao...

630
00:44:24,883 --> 00:44:28,917
the first time I performed
one New Year's Eve,

631
00:44:28,917 --> 00:44:32,489
they attacked me.

632
00:44:32,489 --> 00:44:34,247
There were, take into account,

633
00:44:34,247 --> 00:44:36,207
thirty thousand people.

634
00:44:36,207 --> 00:44:39,354
Hanno iniziato a tirare
bottles on stage.

635
00:44:39,354 --> 00:44:42,886
because for feminists
show off the body

636
00:44:42,886 --> 00:44:45,234
it was something wrong,

637
00:44:45,234 --> 00:44:47,573
it was something unfair,

638
00:44:47,573 --> 00:44:50,694
it was something inappropriate.

639
00:44:50,694 --> 00:44:52,229
In reality this is not the case.

640
00:44:52,229 --> 00:44:55,332
I do it with my body
the cabbage I want,

641
00:44:55,332 --> 00:44:56,534
first:

642
00:44:56,534 --> 00:44:58,154
I don't let anyone dictate me.

643
00:44:58,154 --> 00:45:00,088
the face is mine. The body is mine.

644
00:45:00,088 --> 00:45:02,397
Many people accuse me perhaps

645
00:45:02,397 --> 00:45:05,887
of using my body too much for this,

646
00:45:05,887 --> 00:45:07,463
to be successful.

647
00:45:07,463 --> 00:45:10,749
This was also done by Brigitte Bardot, Marilyn Monroe,

648
00:45:10,749 --> 00:45:14,247
Sophia Loren herself used it
the physique to be successful.

649
00:45:14,247 --> 00:45:18,234
I used this role of mine
because it was convenient for me,

650
00:45:18,234 --> 00:45:19,060
that's all...

651
00:45:19,060 --> 00:45:22,194
Besides, I had to sell
a product...

652
00:45:22,194 --> 00:45:25,491
So I was totally fine with doing it that way.

653
00:45:25,491 --> 00:45:28,295
Perché mai dovrei nascondermi
or dress like a nun?

654
00:45:28,295 --> 00:45:30,991
Why shouldn't I use
the things I have? After all, it's me!

655
00:45:30,991 --> 00:45:32,264
I'm Sabrina!

656
00:45:32,264 --> 00:45:35,245
Call me a feminist or not a feminist, I don't know.

657
00:45:35,245 --> 00:45:37,046
I'm just saying I'm for equal rights

658
00:45:37,046 --> 00:45:39,273
Rights that still exist today

659
00:45:39,273 --> 00:45:40,921
they aren't there.

660
00:45:46,604 --> 00:45:49,573
Sabrina was a big mess.

661
00:45:49,573 --> 00:45:51,763
Unfortunately we bought it

662
00:45:51,763 --> 00:45:54,289
just Sabrina's first song.

663
00:45:54,289 --> 00:45:55,771
But his second song,

664
00:45:55,771 --> 00:45:59,782
Someone took it from us
with an advance payment

665
00:45:59,782 --> 00:46:02,788
of several hundred brands.

666
00:46:02,788 --> 00:46:04,165
A nice nuisance.

667
00:46:04,165 --> 00:46:06,250
Obviously my husband

668
00:46:06,250 --> 00:46:09,945
he didn't want to pay more
to deal with his mistakes.

669
00:46:09,945 --> 00:46:12,089
He didn't do it on purpose, of course.

670
00:46:12,089 --> 00:46:14,653
But in the meantime the disk was gone.

671
00:46:14,653 --> 00:46:16,419
It was really a shame.

672
00:46:17,432 --> 00:46:20,663
Even though they are products
with little means,

673
00:46:20,663 --> 00:46:22,993
and contrasted with successes
like "Boys"

674
00:46:22,993 --> 00:46:24,462
by Sabrina Salerno to say,

675
00:46:24,462 --> 00:46:26,760
are unknown to the public,

676
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,828
there are songs in the cosmos
of Italo disco

677
00:46:29,828 --> 00:46:32,673
who know how to cross borders

678
00:46:32,673 --> 00:46:36,322
starting unknowingly
a musical revolution.

679
00:46:36,322 --> 00:46:39,818
"Dirty Talk" by Klein and M.B.O.,
for example,

680
00:46:39,818 --> 00:46:42,836
registered in Forli already in 1982

681
00:46:42,836 --> 00:46:46,903
and then welcomed with open arms
in Chicago.

682
00:46:48,312 --> 00:46:50,299
Those were the milestones

683
00:46:50,299 --> 00:46:54,926
of dance and culture
linked to electronic music.

684
00:46:54,926 --> 00:46:56,121
A very simple pop text,

685
00:46:56,121 --> 00:47:00,719
at the same time magical and brilliant.

686
00:47:04,727 --> 00:47:08,947
There was a radio station
in Chicago, Hot Mix Five.

687
00:47:09,167 --> 00:47:11,869
He had three or four black DJs
of local fame,

688
00:47:11,869 --> 00:47:15,815
which didn't seem certain
musicians, but they were.

689
00:47:15,815 --> 00:47:18,056
They loved the Italo disco sound

690
00:47:18,056 --> 00:47:22,183
and they wanted to try to imitate him.

691
00:47:22,183 --> 00:47:26,075
That sound would become
house music,

692
00:47:26,075 --> 00:47:29,298
yet in reality it just was
a bad copy

693
00:47:29,298 --> 00:47:32,532
dell'Italo disco, che a sua volta
it was a bad copy

694
00:47:32,532 --> 00:47:35,923
of American disco. Madness!

695
00:47:36,231 --> 00:47:41,062
We return to the starting point, in an eternal virtuous circle.

696
00:47:43,793 --> 00:47:46,916
After all, the Italians had
already experienced

697
00:47:46,916 --> 00:47:49,946
this cultural mix
in the world of cinema.

698
00:47:49,946 --> 00:47:53,449
With great success, too.

699
00:47:54,770 --> 00:47:58,533
Italo disco
it's like the Italian western.

700
00:47:58,533 --> 00:48:01,148
The founding myth

701
00:48:01,148 --> 00:48:03,142
of the United States of America

702
00:48:03,142 --> 00:48:09,512
is created from scratch
from a genre:
"Spaghetti Westerns".

703
00:48:09,512 --> 00:48:14,442
Likewise,
Italo disco is created.

704
00:48:14,442 --> 00:48:16,441
There is something that unites them.

705
00:48:16,441 --> 00:48:18,577
The fact that these two worlds

706
00:48:18,577 --> 00:48:20,710
They were also successful abroad

707
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:22,904
but they were produced in Italy.

708
00:48:22,904 --> 00:48:27,924
I among other things having my father who was
soundtrack composer,

709
00:48:27,924 --> 00:48:29,809
also for this type of film

710
00:48:29,809 --> 00:48:32,763
I find that they can be lumped together.

711
00:48:32,763 --> 00:48:35,460
I loved both, myself.
The American Western

712
00:48:35,460 --> 00:48:37,900
and the Italian western.

713
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:38,930
And the same way

714
00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:43,428
I loved Italo disco.

715
00:48:43,428 --> 00:48:45,951
At the end of the 80s,
the passion for Italo disco

716
00:48:45,951 --> 00:48:48,806
slowly begins to fade away,

717
00:48:48,806 --> 00:48:52,827
and music that for 10 years
filled Italian summers

718
00:48:52,827 --> 00:48:56,183
and transalpine winters
with its sparkling sound

719
00:48:56,183 --> 00:49:01,790
He thus disappears from the scene
musicale internazionale.

720
00:49:03,332 --> 00:49:04,780
Unfortunately,

721
00:49:04,780 --> 00:49:08,307
it also became a little
the "sausage factory",

722
00:49:08,307 --> 00:49:10,449
because structures were born

723
00:49:10,449 --> 00:49:13,623
which placed eight people

724
00:49:13,623 --> 00:49:16,368
to make music every day,

725
00:49:16,368 --> 00:49:19,387
so at that point
that element was lost

726
00:49:19,387 --> 00:49:22,170
which was, a little...
personal.

727
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:24,209
The magic was gone.

728
00:49:27,645 --> 00:49:30,711
When the end of the eighties

729
00:49:30,711 --> 00:49:34,009
when they told us
that this genre was over,

730
00:49:34,009 --> 00:49:35,618
and that even vinyl was finished,

731
00:49:35,618 --> 00:49:38,232
we haven't freed ourselves of all the burdens,

732
00:49:38,232 --> 00:49:41,452
of these warehouses that were packed.

733
00:49:43,738 --> 00:49:46,309
After the hiatus of the 90s,
anyway,

734
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:49,460
at the beginning of the new millennium,
with the advent of the internet,

735
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:51,595
Italo disco music is back

736
00:49:51,595 --> 00:49:56,636
to cheer up the fans
from all over the world.

737
00:49:58,134 --> 00:50:02,921
In the 80s I didn't know
many people

738
00:50:02,921 --> 00:50:05,755
passionate about Italo like me.

739
00:50:05,755 --> 00:50:06,999
But in the 2000s,

740
00:50:06,999 --> 00:50:09,563
internet
he made his entrance

741
00:50:09,563 --> 00:50:11,472
on the music scene, and so
there was a surprise.

742
00:50:11,472 --> 00:50:13,796
The rebirth of Italo disco.

743
00:50:13,796 --> 00:50:17,197
In a very short time
I became friends with whom

744
00:50:17,197 --> 00:50:21,899
in the world he had the passion
which animated me too.

745
00:50:24,101 --> 00:50:28,935
She took a break, but now 
she's back.

746
00:50:28,935 --> 00:50:31,326
Italo disco has a following
so strong,

747
00:50:31,326 --> 00:50:33,588
although very specific,

748
00:50:33,588 --> 00:50:37,094
that will never die, that's it.
It will remain forever.

749
00:50:37,843 --> 00:50:42,169
Gli anni '80 sono tornati.
We are all back on stage

750
00:50:42,169 --> 00:50:45,001
after 30 years, and it's incredible.

751
00:50:45,001 --> 00:50:47,900
The world needs it now.

752
00:50:56,973 --> 00:51:00,957
Italo disco is archaic,

753
00:51:00,957 --> 00:51:02,732
it is ancestral.

754
00:51:02,732 --> 00:51:05,749
It is neither modern 
nor postmodern.

755
00:51:07,070 --> 00:51:09,560
It is primitive, immediate,

756
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,577
dermal,

757
00:51:10,577 --> 00:51:12,357
sweaty,

758
00:51:13,723 --> 00:51:18,893
unpresentable, you scoundrel.

759
00:51:18,893 --> 00:51:21,707
She's beautiful.

760
00:51:36,330 --> 00:51:38,400
Music is art.

761
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,805
Sometimes craftsmanship,

762
00:51:39,805 --> 00:51:41,050
but in both cases,

763
00:51:41,050 --> 00:51:43,681
it needs tricks
to survive.

764
00:51:43,681 --> 00:51:46,082
We are our wiles
we had finished them,

765
00:51:46,082 --> 00:51:48,832
we had the cards
all of them already played.

766
00:51:48,832 --> 00:51:50,000
And we thought

767
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,567
that is no longer there.

768
00:51:51,567 --> 00:51:54,874
Instead, today we have
still cards to play.

769
00:51:54,874 --> 00:51:57,033
This time we will play them
all the way.

770
00:51:57,033 --> 00:51:59,105
We won't throw away the records
never go away again,

771
00:51:59,105 --> 00:52:02,678
word of honor. DJ's word.
